IT'S ON! De Blasio tells WINS 'I'm very angry with what the governor said about the NYPD' after Cuomo says mayor, NYPD 'did not do their job'

1010 WINS Newsroom
June 03, 2020 - 12:29 pm
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NEW YORK (1010 WINS) -- Mayor Bill de Blasio announced on Tuesday that the city's curfew was extended through Sunday following two nights of looting and violent confrontations with police -- which Gov. Andrew Cuomo said de Blasio and the NYPD failed at controlling.

"The NYPD and the mayor did not do their job last night, I believe that," Cuomo said at a briefing. "Second, you have 38,000 NYPD people. It is the largest police department in the United State of America. Use the 38,000 people and protect property. Use the police, protect property and people. Look at the videos, it was a disgrace.

He added, "I think the Mayor underestimates the scope of the problem and the duration of the problem. What happened in NYC was inexcusable." 

But in an interview with 1010 WINS Tuesday night, de Blasio slammed the governor's remarks but said, that despite their philosophical differences, the pair can work together.

"I think he's wrong," de Blasio told 1010 WINS. "He dishonored the men and women of the NYPD ... It's disgraceful ... I think he owes an apology to the 36,000 hardworking men and women who are working for us ... It was absolutely inappropriate."

"We’ve had differences, undoubtedly sharp differences … but during this crisis, no. I’m very angry at what the governor said about the NYPD. Again, he can take a shot at me anytime he wants, but that’s not the point. When you go on now over three full months, he and I have actually agreed the vast majority of times, we announced that decision on the subway cleaning together, we announced the decision on the June 8 Phase 1 restart together. We’ve talked a lot, our teams talk literally multiple times every day, and usually find a way to agree on the vast majority of things.”

De Blasio continued, “He and I have personal differences, we have philosophical differences, but that does not stop us from working together to get things done in a crisis, and in the end you know what I’ve seen cities and states around the country where the cities and states were on totally different pages. That’s not the case here. We’ve been on the same page on the vast majority of things.”

As for Cuomo attacking his leadership, de Blasio said, “Look, he can attack me all he wants — I’m used to it from him. I think he’s wrong and I don’t think it’s a way to get things done if we’re trying to solve a problem ... I try to really be respectful of the state’s leadership through this pandemic even sometimes when I disagree but I just don’t think that kind of approach gets anyone anywhere. But that’s not the important point.

He added, "The important point here is he dishonored the men and women of the NYPD in an absolutely inappropriate way for any leader to do. Any elected official who blames the NYPD while they were out there fighting in the streets to restore order and protect people? That’s disgraceful and just, I don’t understand how anyone could do that. I think he owes an apology to 36,000 hardworking men and women who have been putting their lives on the line for all of us."

1010 WINS anchor Larry Mullins told de Blasio, that according to Cuomo's office, the governor was not singling out the entire NYPD -- but solely Commissioner Dermot Shea. 

"If someone says the NYPD, they refer to the entire organization. If he wanted to say Commissioner Shea,  he’s a big boy he could have said Commissioner Shea, so let’s not mince words and play games," de Blasio said. "And so he said the NYPD, he has to own it. It was absolutely inappropriate. And if he’s now saying, oh, he’s singling out Commissioner Dermot Shea? I say that’s dishonorable as well. The Commissioner has done an extraordinary job in the NYPD for decades, he’s leading the NYPD through one of its most difficult periods in its entire history and he’s doing it I think in an incredibly honorable, effective manner."

Cuomo was asked about his comments again at his briefing Wednesday morning. He said he was talking about the NYPD's deployment, not about rank-and-file officers.

"I spoke to the police commissioner and said the same thing I just said to you and the same thing I said yesterday, which is it’s an issue of management and deployment," Cuomo said. "The actual police officers are the best. My issue was with the management and deployment, never about the police officers. It’s about the management. It’s about the deployment, not about the officers.”

The governor also said, “I believe it’s the best police department in the country, and we know the police officers can handle these situations, because they have.”

NATIONAL GUARD

De Blasio told 1010 WINS that the National Guard is not needed, even though Cuomo said it's on standby.

"There is no organization that is better at keeping people safe than the NYPD and this, the extraordinary abilities of the NYPD are on full display tonight," he said. "We have more officers out than any of the last few days, we have a very specific, strategic deployment built around the problems we’ve seen in the last 48 hours."

He added, "I can tell you I have deep respect for the National Guard and the State Police, but they are not trained for the circumstance, they are not trained for the challenges that come with being in city neighborhoods, understanding how to deescalate, how to handle very complex, difficult situations. We do not want heavily armed people who are not trained for the circumstance and not from here because that could lead to an altercation — that could lead to a loss of life. Then we take the current crisis and make it much, much worse. I talked to elected officials all over the city today, in communities of color, haven’t heard a single one saying that they want the National Guard to come in and take that risk of violence happening by accident that could poison the situation much much worse."

ERIC GARNER

1010 WINS' Mullins also asked de Blasio if there are parallels between the death of George Floyd and Eric Garner, which some people believe.

"Yeah, I’m very comfortable saying based on what I know now, and based on what I experienced with the Justice Department, I made a mistake," the mayor admitted. "I should not have said we would wait on the United States Department of Justice. They asked me to. It was of course during the Obama administration, the Department of Justice asked the city of New York and the NYPD to stand back, to not pursue charges. So they could do their own investigation.

He continued, "We believed that they were going to act but they never acted. That was a mistake, I have to own that mistake. I hope we never have a situation like that again but if there ever were, I would call for immediate charges, immediate action. If someone doesn’t belong on the police force we need to get them off the force and get them off the force fast. So I learned a lesson, I want to acknowledge that lesson, I want to acknowledge that mistake. But I hope to never, ever have to apply that knowledge I now have because I’m working every day, I know Commissioner Shea is too, to repair the relationship between police and community, so you never see a situation like Eric Garner or George Floyd again in this city."